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Buzz

Hoping little Caylee is found today.

Thanks Pat I missed that.

SLC

I second that, Buzz. You are so right about CA making Caylee's body impersonal. There are alot of bloggers who believe that recovering Caylee's body won't shake her grandma into accepting it's her. I could have compassion on CA if she was only in denial. I'd probably do the same in her shoes. But she lost my compassion when she started saying outrageous things, lied by backtracking on things she said, and showed such an ungrateful attitude toward those who are trying to help her. She is mad at TES because they aren't looking for a live Caylee. Doesn't she realize that they are putting up missing child posters of Caylee nationwide? What is she wanting out of these people? It may be hard for her to accept that people are looking for a body but she needs to shut up and let them do what they are doing. The evidence is stacked against her daughter and the body of Caylee will most likely make the evidence iron clad. Cindy looks more like she is protecting her daughter than being concerned for Caylee. That is irksome to all of us.

cindy morine

Can u believe that a sick ass company posted bail for this disgusting mother because they want to have the rights to her book and movie.What a sick bunch of people we have in thias country.This company isn't even thinking about the child being dead,all they are concerned about is the money.No wonder they are being kept anonymous,they would lose their company.
Lets' all face it,her lawyer and parents are telling her to act insane,uncaring,they are all thinking about the money they believe they can make off of this poor child.Any one who would buy the book,or watch the movis is as sick as the mother.
I also think they need to investigate the grandmother,how convienent she now hires a lawyer when they find chloroform in the car...hmmm,KIND OF MAKES YOU THINK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Buzz

I thought they'd gotten some brains when they hired Garrison. He's flopped or more likely was too nice for PC. This new lawyer had better be laughing all the way to the bank or he's dumber than he looks.

I am confused. One station reported that the money was given to the Anthony's and they used it to post the bonds. Then there was PC no muffler motormouth saying they didn't know about the bail until later yesterday afternoon. That it was something Caylee's mother and Bozo planned and they kept it secret until the last minute. I guess then PC no muffler motormouth just had to sign on the dotted line, don't look behind the curtain, don't read the fine print.

I hope TES is successful today-either via poster or searchers.

wondering eyes

If it helps anyone feel better..the neighbors are being vocal about wanting Caylee back in jail.

Protestors already gathering at Anthony home in anticipation of CA release from jail.

Orange County, Fla. -- Soon after we reported Casey was going to get out of jail supporters and protestors stood outside of the Anthony family home. Neighbors are now concerned once Casey Anthony comes back to her parents’ home on Hopespring Drive, everyone's safety will be at risk.

Casey Anthony supporters said, “You people cannot convict her before she’s had a trial.”

Protestors said, “she will be proven guilty in the end.”

Even neighbors, who are tired of the circus in their community, got involved. They don’t want to see the kind of demonstration that broke out last Friday, the same day Casey Anthony was returned to jail on theft charges.

One neighbor said she’s really upset at Casey’s latest chance at freedom. She said the missing toddler’s mother belongs in jail.

More: http://www.wftv.com/news/17397003/detail.html

Ronni

I really dislike this mob mentality that is prevailing in the neighbourhood. I understand the neighbours' frustration, but it's really outrageous to gather outside somebody's house and yell at them.

wondering eyes

Last night was mulling over PC's behaviour and truly question if she is maybe bipolar and/or maniac-depressive herself??

For someone who is in denial...eventually after all this time, she should have reached a stage where she "snapped" and accepted the reality of everything that is going on.

Yet being in a highly toxic situation as evident by really the ying-yang family relationship on display, it seems conceivable that everyone just enables the others behaviour.

Another thought that if she was "fine" either Tim, Beth or someone, even Jose should have recommended her to see a counselor or therapist at this point to just "deal" with things...


With how she was acting during the Today show interview and in occassional interviews where it seem she was either hitting the bottle (or GA) real hard or taking Xanax...I couldn't help but think about what people I've known whose dealt with being bipolar and maniac-depressive (I think there is a poster here who gave a more personal account, don't want to name them and have them think I'm trying to put them on the spot, so please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong or off)..describe feeling like they are reallllly just sloooooooowwww down while on medication and when not....they feel all speeeeeeeeeed up like someone hit the fast foward button on them and describe their emotions like a rocking boat where they go from one just as fast as they go to another.

The reason is she seems to fit the symptons of a "High" episode:
* Increased energy, activity, and restlessness
* Excessively ‘high,’ overly good, euphoric mood
* Distractibility, can’t concentrate well
* Racing thoughts and talking very fast
* Jumping from one idea to another
* Little sleep needed
* Increased sexual drive<----that is just..eewwwww...ewwww....ewwww thinking in relation to Cindy but Deathball on the other hand
* Spending sprees
* Poor judgment
* Unrealistic beliefs in one’s abilities and powers
* Extreme irritability
* Provocative, intrusive, or aggressive behavior
* Abuse of drugs, particularly cocaine, alcohol, and sleeping medications
* Denial that anything is wrong<----Sound familiar
* Lasting period of behavior that is different from usual

and a low episode:
Symptoms of manic disorder that characterize the low or ‘depressive’ aspect of manic-depressive disorder are the following:

* Lasting sad, anxious, or empty mood
* Feelings of hopelessness or pessimism
* Feelings of guilt, worthlessness, or helplessness
* Loss of interest or pleasure in activities once enjoyed, including sex
* Decreased energy, a feeling of fatigue or of being “slowed down”
* Difficulty concentrating, remembering, making decisions
* Restlessness or irritability
* Sleeping too much, or can’t sleep
* Change in appetite and / or unintended weight loss or gain
* Chronic pain or persistent bodily symptoms not caused by illness or injury
* Thoughts of death or suicide / suicide attempts
link:http://www.allaboutlifechallenges.org/manic-depression-symptoms-faq.htm

Now at the same time..it's not saying this is the case so adding the disclaimer..all this is PURE SPECULATION, since it's so easy for anyone to go through and find one or two symptoms that are applicable and suddenly think you are comiing down with Ebola.

However, just the fact that there is a nationwide search for Caylee...Cindy has a very ying yang attitude. She is screaming at everyone for not searching for Caylee but the facts are there...people are.

She wants someone to go look for Caylee, but the facts are people are doing that..but for most of us...we can't get in our cars and all of America drive to Florida or wherever she wants us to be.

On that note...I think she is a media vampire now and can't get enough and suddenly feels a sense of control that went from her family to all of us.

The demand to get her own way and her way only fits a NPD personailty and little wonder Deathball has the same attitude too...

NPD is a little bit genetically inherited and environmental however if any of them is bipoloar/M-D then it would make sense...

How does this fit Deathball? She's a sociopath..plain and simple. She's been profiled as such and she is literally doing everything that a sociopath does.

Interesting if she tries to go to church now..any of them...since the reality is that this is what a sociopath does not for religion but control.

That is usually short lived since sociopaths live for the moment and there is no stimulation in church for them.

Hence they tend to gravitate toward things that do stimulate them, in this case...Internet, friends, clubbing.

Soooooooooo....anyway that was my 1/2 cents. LOL

wondering eyes

Ronni-I have to agree but at the same time...if it was a peaceful protest...they have the right to peacefully assembly and Motormouth is going to have to be REALLY careful on that one...If Fancy Pants is a good atty, he would know that it's one thing on the yard..that's a lynch mob, but if it's on the public streets with permission and a permit, he can't do anything otherwise, ACLU is going to be all over them and right now, it's about damage control.

He starts shooting off threats and lawsuits himself and try to control what people say, do or protest..and this thing is going to get ugly and he maybe smart enough to know that.

People are tired. They want justice for Caylee and they see an injustice.

Most people don't realize the legal system is slow and forensices isn't like CSI: las vegas or CSI: Miami. There is no Jack Grisham solving crime in an hour.

They just want to see justice and most are probrably parents too who see her as a concern to their own children.

wondering eyes

Background on Bond money: Leaves question where did they get the money.

Caylee's Mom Leaving Jail; Crowd Angry Over 'Paris Hilton' Treatment
http://www.local6.com/news/17397417/detail.html

Local 6 News reported that the parents of Casey Anthony, George and Cindy, signed a promissory note agreement where they put up bond money to get their daughter out of jail.


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wondering eyes

Update:
If Caylee is alive, there is going to be major problems, apparently LE has this covered on both ends and even Fancy Pants will know you can't mess with Child Services
local: http://www.local6.com/news/17397417/detail.html

Department of Children and Families workers visited Casey Anthony in jail Thursday
Also, two Department of Children and Families workers visited Casey Anthony in jail Thursday but the reason for the meeting was not known.
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What does DCF mean? It means that they are working on the premise that IF Caylee is still alive, than they probrably are letting Casey know that she and her family may not be able to have custody of Caylee.

This means there are going to be social services investigation (and they go to Ohio in order to interview family about what the Anthonys and Casey is like, if there are juvie records...they are allowed to see for what and why) to deteremine if the home is a "safe and stable home", Casey will be required to attend parenting classes, go to school and get a job, find an apartment, provide proof SHE not her family will and can provide for Caylee, she will not be able to go clubbing, she will not be able to leave Caylee with anyone that is NOT approved with teh State which means either Caylee has to go to a daycare and/or if she stays with a babysitter, the state will have to investigate the babysitter, Casey will have to provide legit names, numbers, addresses so they can verify the babysitters are who they are, Casey can expect "unexpected visits" to insure that she is following guidelines and Caylee is being taken care.

More than likely they would put Caylee in foster care until most of the requirements are met with restricted visitation and they have the power (and if Casey is convicted of any crime) to revoke parental rights so Casey will get this from both ends.

wondering eyes

another source of money; Writer, you called it!

Filed this under speculation but it was said the following:

Casey will be talking to the media, (not them) that the exclusive rights were sold to the highest bidder

Can anyone verify or discredit that?

Ronni

I do understand that, WE, but still...it seems like a very volatile situation, and one in which Cindy could be justified in defending herself.

I understand that the demonstrators have a legal right to be there. I just think that a) it's a bad idea, b) given Cindy's explosive nature, it could escalate into something really ugly and c) did I mention that I think it's a really bad idea?

I also believe that Cindy and Casey deserve the treatment...I just think it sets a bad precedent. Is it the "wave of the future?"

Buzz

They may doing the interview as part of their investigation of the child neglect charges. Actually I'm surprised they haven't visited prior to this.

Ronni

Maybe just additional pressure?

YC

Just incredible. With all the crazy antics and gyrations of this lunatic family; poor little Caylee is still not found. Who will stand up for Caylee's rights ? How does bailing the idiot out help the search ? She has not provided one bit of help to locate/retrieve the baby.

It makes me sick !

wondering eyes

Ronni: I definitely agree with you. It's almost a case of which came first, the chicken or the egg.

Cindy pretty much has alienate herself from not only the neighborhood, but the community, LE, TES for sure, and the nation...

It's where there is this fine line and if it's not crossed now...it probrably will come court time (and REALLY get ugly then).

When you think about it though, it adds a lot of psychological pressure too.

It lets them know that they are not as supported by the community as they try to justify when they attack others and just an opinion, but I think attacking TES was the straw that broke the camel's back.

Some of the protestors are people who were out actually searching and probrably felt like they were slap in the face....

You're completely right though, Ronni, given what Cindy has displayed, this can get ugly, however she does have a Fancy Pants lawyer, so he maybe able to tell her look, this is what she can do and this is what they can do.

He would know that the protestors have a right to a peaceful protest and considering some of the protestors are actually people FROM that neighborhood...she really can't tell them what they can't do.

If they choose to have peaceful assembly on their front yard or with the others, they can and so it's really a case of Cindy being caught between a rock and a hard place.

She does do something and Fancy Pants may just drop her now since she needs to REALLY clean up her bad image.

Ronni

If I were he fancy pants lawyer, I'd be telling her, "forget cleaning up the image. Just don't say anything to anyone. Go out and search and keep your moth shut."

wondering eyes

Not sure if everyone can pull this up but on http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=70379&page=8

if you goto post #179; look what GA put on public property...so in a way..you can say that they are antagonizing people and btw...you can imagine the neighbors have completely written them off now.

Wondering what it is? Remember that big billboard? Yep. GA placed it in front of his house....you can bet the neighbors are pretty miffed.

SLC

Casey will TALK?! Oh, yeah, this has to do with money, not Caylee. Doh...

wondering eyes

If that is what will encourage her to talk...I'm sure we all have some play money laying around the house? Monopoly? Think that would do it?

Put it on a hook and dangle it in front of her....or think a carrot would work instead? Oh wait..that's for when a mule won't move...*shrug* not much of a difference really..think I have a couple of fresh carrots....

http://www.wesh.com/video/16128463/index.html

Live feed..reporter was flirting with a guy while waiting.

wondering eyes

FYI: Forgot to add:

This live feed: http://www.wesh.com/video/16128463/index.html

is aimed DIRECTLY at the door Casey is set to walk out of ...so if you plan to watch it....remember...your computer is innocent...the computer is your friend...do not throw things at the computer...it will unfortunately not pass through the screen but will break the screen thus defeating the whole purpose of throwing things.

Ronni

Not saying the neighbours don't have reason to be upset. Just that gathering outside somebody's house and shouting looks way too much like a mob to me.

It's too...personal, I guess.

wondering eyes

Ronni *Hugs* just an opinion but I think it became personal when Cindy called everyone maggots, parasites and leeches and talk about us getting off OUR butts to look for Caylee and yet she has done NOTHING except blab her mouth...

I think things wouldn't have come to this if she hadn't directly attack and tried to slander TES and Tim Miller.

It is too personal but then again...we are talking about a family that has lied and used everyone including the general population and then expect us to treat them like they are the royal family when they are really royal pain in the .........

wondering eyes

Live feed commentary:

Jose has arrived and he has hired apparently two pretty beefed up bouncer looking guards to escort him and Casey.

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